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INT: Where did you do the
research that led you to this interest and belief that a more action-oriented
approach would produce lasting results?
JH: Well, I think the name of
the outfit was the National Training Labs, and that came out of
the National Institute of Education and National Institute of Health. And
it just so happened that a guy named Jerry Fletcher, who had a Ph.D.
in education, was one of our first contacts. And wouldn't
you know it? This guy is an expert in learning per
se. And we had heard about National Training Labs
and the work that they had done with the Korean War veterans returning
home. They had helped them shift their ground of being
from one of war-time to peace-time, now that you're home reconstituting
yourself for a sort of job and family. And the way they
were talking about it, the National Training Labs, anyway, was that
if you could get people to experience something, you could cut down
the time it took for people to really get something of value, because
in-lecture learning took three or four or five times as long as
experiential learning. So those are the two, the National
Training Labs and Dr. Jerry Fletcher are the two that helped us
most there.
INT: And Dr. Fletcher was a part
of the National Training Labs?
JH: No, he worked for the National
Institute of Education in Washington D.C.
INT: Is that a government entity?
JH: It is, yes.
INT: And is the National Institute
of Health, which you said the National Training Labs was a part
of, a government entity as well?
JH: Yeah, I can't be 100% on
that. I don't know that the National Training Labs was
a part of the National Institute of Education or Health, but I think
it was.
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