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Interview with Dr. John Hanley - Page
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INT: One more question
on the Large Group Awareness concept and then we'll move on. Dr.
Lieberman coined the term 'Large Group Awareness.' Awareness
of what? In other words, in these experiential trainings
they increase one's awareness. Obviously large groups,
that's sort of implicit in that name. But awareness of
what?
JH: Yeah, that's a great question. I'm
now speaking on behalf of Dr. Yalom, and you'd be better off asking
Lee Ross and also Mort Lieberman. But I think that they
equate awareness with the ability to take a new action. So,
their point of view was that people are pretty straightforward and
they're not stupid, and that when people become aware of an opening
for a new possibility, they step into it. That from their
point of view, at least (and I'm sort of speculating here), I think
they felt that once people had a shift in their perception of the
way that life was occurring to them--once they became aware that,
one, it was just their perception, just their interpretation, and
two, that they could choose (because they could interpret it any
way they chose)--as long as their actions became consistent with
the way that they chose, they could create a new future.
So awareness plays a big part in human nature.
Again, my speculation is that what they were saying is, in a very
simple sentence: human beings, when they become aware of a new potential,
will automatically step into it. And it's those walls
we keep running into and those mistakes we keep making and those
breakdowns we keep having simply because we're not attuned or we're
not aware of re-creating the same old mistakes over and over again,
and that once we become aware of how to prevent that, we automatically
step aside and create a new possibility.
INT: You mentioned that this
approach is not therapy or psychologically-based. What
are the primary differences between this approach and a therapeutic,
psychological approach to improvement?
JH: Well, I think that,
at least for us (and I think most of the educational community would
agree), what we're presenting is a curriculum for learning, a curriculum
for education, and I distinguish education from psychology or therapy. Not
to say that people don't learn in therapy. I'm certain
that they do, but I think, initially at least, the reason people
go to therapy is because they have some dramatic or potentially
dramatic emotional break-up/breakdown upset. In the case
of the educational model, it's just asking people, "Hey, listen,
do you want to learn new things about yourself and the way the world
works? Do you want to learn about how to achieve your
goals more effectively and more smoothly? If you do,
we invite you to take our course." But from this
perspective it's strictly education: we're not here to deal with
your therapeutic needs because we're simply not equipped to deal
with therapeutic needs.
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