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Interview with Dr. John Hanley - Page
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INT: Can you just give
me a rundown of the history of the development of Lifespring from
its inception?
JH: I can. Actually
we started in San Francisco and then we expanded to Portland, Oregon. Then
we went to Orange County, and then from Orange County to L.A., and
then we went way across the country to Washington D.C., and then
we spun off the East Coast from Washington, and then ultimately
the hub of the East was New York. Then from New York--sorry,
we did Washington, Philadelphia then New York--and then from New
York we had people coming in from Florida and Atlanta. Then
eventually we spun Atlanta and the Miami area after that. Then
we went back to the Midwest. We had Dallas, then we opened
Chicago, and so it goes, you know. I think we had fifteen
or eighteen centers in the US.
INT: Over what period of time
did this expansion take place?
JH: Well, let's see. The
first three or four came within the first couple of years, and then
the next ten took about five or six years more.
INT: So you started in the mid-70s
so
that takes us up basically to the mid-80s, right? So
you're at that point?
JH: Yeah.
INT: Then at that point you just
worked on continuing to develop into these cities?
JH: Yeah. We started
also to work on new products. By that time we'd come
up with several workshops. We had invented a new training
called the Masters Course which we felt was a premium piece of work,
and we really took it upon ourselves to continue to develop our
staff, our trainers, and our trainings.
Then we began to look overseas. We
opened up Tokyo, Japan in 1977 and then, about 1990--I cannot remember
exactly, maybe '92--we sold the license for Asia to a company called
AsiaWorks. And then we trained all their trainers as
well as our own. AsiaWorks is a big company today and
is doing very well. Again, all Lifespring trained personnel
and Lifespring technology.
And then we saw several spin-offs around
the world, with several here in the US. I think the most
interesting spin off is Dr. Phil. In fact, the first
day somebody called me and said, "Did you know that Dr. Phil
on the Oprah show has the Lifespring training?" I said, "No,
I did not." And they said, "Well, you should tune into
this and watch it." And I did, and I was simply amazed that
somehow this guy had gotten our manual and, verbatim, took the basic
training as his own and then followed with the Advanced course as
his own. Really, if you watch Dr. Phil, for those who've
seen the show and have done Lifespring trainings, you will know
that there's only one place he could have gotten that information
and that is the Lifespring Basic and Advanced courses.
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