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Interview with Dr. John Hanley - Page
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INT: What are the central
distinctions intrinsic in the whole philosophical concept of transformation? What
are the building blocks of that?
JH: Well, there's a course that
I recently found out about called Millionaire Mind which I thought
was a clever name for a course.
INT: Who put that up?
JH: I don't know, but I just
recently heard about it and I thought, "Well, if that's Millionaire
Mind, then what we are is Billionaire Being," if you will. So
being is the number one abstraction that we want to give
people--a real opportunity to experience their own being. You
know, we live in a society that's really oriented to consumption
and to having and to lots doing and activity. But, you
know, the being part is just sort of taken for granted, and what
we do is sort of reverse the order: if doing and having are primary
in the real world and in most people's thinking, then, when they
come into the training, we want to present the idea that maybe being
has a lot more to do with their ability to do and have than we've
previously thought. So that's number one.
Number two, we want to open up the possibility
(not like we know this is so but we have strong indications that
it's valuable, for people to look at this question) that really
what we see out there and what we hear come through a filtering
system. We call it a paradigm, and that's not a new word
now--it was some years ago when we started, but now it's sort of
taken for granted. Paradigm. And really, what
paradigm means is that we have a set of beliefs and values through
which we see the world. That's all fine and well, and
when I say we, I mean all of us and, therefore, we don't have some
perfect access to truth. So, if we don't have to deal
with truth, then we don't have to deal with a fixed being, then
we can deal with being and possibility. And, ultimately,
the third and most important distinction, in my opinion, is that
yesterday has very little to do with tomorrow. What the
trainings try to do--what transformational technology is about--is
separating the past from the future, and that's what opens up possibilities
when people can begin to see that there's not a cause-effect relationship
between the past and the future. That means that everything
I did up untill now isn't necessarily what I'll continue to do or
isn't necessarily an extrapolation of what I have been doing. In
fact, I could take a 180º turn up, down, or sideways because
I'm not lashed and tied to the past.
So those are the three that I see, and we
could talk about that for a long time because the first course is
five days and the second is five days. So that's a long
conversation, but I'd say those three are, to me, primary.
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