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JH: (Continued) Let me
just backtrack a bit. So, philosophy's job, more or less,
has been to tell us what it means to be a human being. And
if we look at philosophy in the long view, we'll note that from
time to time--every 100 years or every 500 years or every 1,000
years--what it means to be human and, therefore, what possibilities
are available to human beings, change. And they change
because some philosopher, like Plato, for example, comes up with
a heck of an argument and people say, "Yeah, that's right. It
sounds right. Yeah, that's what we are."
Well, then Kierkegaard and Heidegger come along
and say, "Hey, you know what? Maybe, but maybe not. Maybe
Descartes didn't get it exactly right." They say,
"Hey, we know how you've described what it means to be a human
being and what's possible for a human being." And
there's a certain metaphysics which each generation, or every third
or fourth generation, of philosophers has made known and that has
been accepted as the way it is to be human. And that
definition--that metaphysical description, if you will--opens certain
possibilities for action and closes certain other possibilities
for action. Well, Kierkegaard and then, subsequently,
Heidegger said, "Well, what if there wasn't any real metaphysics?
What if there was no 'This is really, really this time, no kidding,
we've found it, this is what it means to be a human being?'" And
with that--the idea of what it means to be a human being as an interpretation--if
you play with that, you begin to see that, "Hmm
so there's
no home plate for human beings; so there's really no real 'what
it means to be a human being.'" Then the idea of
being able to declare what it means to be me and declare what I'm
up to and declare the possibility that my life is opens up. So
that's a little short summary of the sort of philosophic background
of the transformational training.
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