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Interview with Dr. John Hanley - Page
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INT: You've really spent
your entire adult life breaking ground as what I would term the
leading arrow-catcher and groundbreaker, so to speak, pioneering
a new way of approaching learning and education. What
do you see now as the future for transformational technology experience
for education?
JH: Well, I really am committed
to moving the general public side forward and being as available
as I can to assist anybody there because, again, I think that is
enormously valuable for individuals. And then, simultaneously
to that, a group of us have made a much larger commitment to the
business world. In the last two or three years I have
spent about 98% of my work time working for corporations doing cultural
change and leadership training using this technology, and I must
tell you that it works as well, if not better, in the business community
than it did for the last 30 years in the general public community.
The thing about business which is so terrific
is that they're pretty results orientated, and if you go in there
with transformational technology and get the job done, well, there's
no questions after that. It seems that business has exhausted
almost every other skills training, psychologists, field trips,
whatever, to get the kinds of people on their staff that they can
empower to not only get the job done for themselves but get the
job done for the organisation. And it's with that that
I believe that business has now opened to a new approach. For
instance, IBM spent $30 million on a program called 'Transforming
the Manager,' and IBM--big blue and white shirts, black suits--for
them to embrace this technology is a wonderful thing for all of
us and really for business worldwide.
Then, also, we've been spending a good deal of
time overseas in Asia primarily and working in the emerging market,
China, and we see the multinational organizations that are going
over there. For instance, we're working with the Director
of Training for Home Depot in Beijing, which is kind of funny because
we're not working with Home Depot here in the US. But
we are working with the Director of Training over there so, you
know, you take it where you can get it.
But the point is that transformation in
the business community is worldwide, and business is calling for
a new recipe to support their employees 360º. They
know that if an employee's life is working, then their work life
is working. You know, we used to think, "Listen,
don't bring any of your other issues to the workplace; put in your
eight hours or your nine hours, do a good job, and then, you know,
if you're going back to a broken situation or an upset or a personal
breakdown, so be it." But now business recognizes that the
whole person really is who they're counting on to get the job done,
and so the idea of transformation becomes extremely important. We
don't just work with people transforming their experience in the
workplace, but rather, as a sort of side effect, these transformational
technologies and these tools that they get in business are applicable
in their everyday life as well.
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