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Interview with Dr. John Hanley
Participants:
INTERVIEWER: I'm here with John Hanley Senior and
we're conducting an interview--a conversation primarily regarding
Lifespring and the experiential education work that John Hanley, Sr.
pioneered and has dedicated his life to.
So John, tell me how you originally got started
with experiential education?
JH: In 1971, after I got out
of UW Milwaukee, I took a job with an organization named Mind Dynamics
which was a fairly new organization, and they were doing general
public trainings in awareness. In a certain sense, you
could say on the order of transcendental meditation, which was quite
popular at the time, only this had a little bit more rigor and discipline
to it. And I spent
let's see, from October 1971
until January, sorry, November 1973 working for them. Had
all kinds of jobs: trainer, administrator, etcetera, and then decided
to move on and form a different entity that was directed a bit more
specifically at, shall we say, assisting people who were more goal-oriented
and wanted to up their ability to produce results and sort of work
smarter, not harder.
So, with that, five of us started Lifespring and incorporated in
January 1974. I think we may have done a training in December of
1973, and the five were Robert White, Charlene Afrenow, Larry Jensen,
Randal Ravell and myself.
INT: And
you were all involved
with Mind Dynamics?
JH: Yeah, all with Mind Dynamics.
INT: But you were considered
the founder?
JH: Yes. Well, I was President,
and three of the initial five that started it with me left in the
first year. And then, in 1977, or '78 I think, I bought out the
last partner. So from 1978 until almost 2000 I did it by myself.
So, the last 22 years I did it by myself. In the first year there
were five, the second year there were two and so that's how that
went.
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