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Interview with Dr. John Hanley

Participants:

  •   INT
  •   Dr. John Hanley

INTERVIEWER: I'm here with John Hanley Senior and we're conducting an interview--a conversation primarily regarding Lifespring and the experiential education work that John Hanley, Sr. pioneered and has dedicated his life to.

So John, tell me how you originally got started with experiential education?

JH: In 1971, after I got out of UW Milwaukee, I took a job with an organization named Mind Dynamics which was a fairly new organization, and they were doing general public trainings in awareness.  In a certain sense, you could say on the order of transcendental meditation, which was quite popular at the time, only this had a little bit more rigor and discipline to it.  And I spent…let's see, from October 1971 until January, sorry, November 1973 working for them.  Had all kinds of jobs: trainer, administrator, etcetera, and then decided to move on and form a different entity that was directed a bit more specifically at, shall we say, assisting people who were more goal-oriented and wanted to up their ability to produce results and sort of work smarter, not harder.

So, with that, five of us started Lifespring and incorporated in January 1974.  I think we may have done a training in December of 1973, and the five were Robert White, Charlene Afrenow, Larry Jensen, Randal Ravell and myself.

INT: And…you were all involved with Mind Dynamics?

JH: Yeah, all with Mind Dynamics.

INT: But you were considered the founder?

JH: Yes.  Well, I was President, and three of the initial five that started it with me left in the first year.  And then, in 1977, or '78 I think, I bought out the last partner.  So from 1978 until almost 2000 I did it by myself.   So, the last 22 years I did it by myself.  In the first year there were five, the second year there were two and so that's how that went.

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